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The “Evolution” of Minister Goodyear

Following up on my post from yesterday, Minister of Science Gary Goodyear now insists he believes in evolution:

“We are evolving every year, every decade. That’s a fact, whether it is to the intensity of the sun, whether it is to, as a chiropractor, walking on cement versus anything else, whether it is running shoes or high heels, of course we are evolving to our environment. But that’s not relevant and that is why I refused to answer the question. The interview was about our science and tech strategy, which is strong.”

I’m not sure which is worse, a minister of the Crown not subscribing to the well-established theory of evolution, or one that has no idea of the difference between evolution and adaptation. And, I might add, your science and tech strategy is not strong if you haven’t asked actual scientists to help formulate it. I expect we’ll see the strings cut on this particular marionette soon.

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19 thoughts on “The “Evolution” of Minister Goodyear

  1. Shorter Goodyear answer, “I don’t believe in Evolution, but I’ve got my orders from Stephen Harper; and since I do love me those ministerial perks, here’s some bafflegab.”

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  2. Clearly, Mr. Goodyear is preparing for: Is your minister smarter than a fifth-grader?!
    Someone get that man some books! He’ll need to start slow, so maybe a dictionary first. Chapters has some great science books for kids from ages 6 – 8 that will be in his range.
    He’ll be happy, he can burn them when he’s finished.

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  3. Hmm – a couple of quick points of clarification, actually:

    first – it’s a fallacy to say that one ‘believes’ in evolution, science isn’t a matter of faith – I accept the theory as it stands as the best possible explanation for the observations that have been made. But then, I don’t really expect a journalist to be able to make that kind of logical distinction, it’s quite possible they didn’t actually take any science classes.

    Second – Goodyear isn’t really the Minister for Science and Technology – he’s the Minister of State for Science and Technology – a small distinction, but an important one. Minister of State is pretty much a glorified title for someone that sits above a Secretary and below the actual Minister, and considering that we are talking about the Harper Government, that makes him pretty much powerless – if the Minister is the guy who fetches Harper’s coffee, Goodyear is the one who presents his rear end for Stevie to use as a coaster….

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  4. Good points Dan, thanks. Goodyear uses the word ‘believe’ – I tried to avoid it for the reason you stated.
    I was leaving the whole chiropractor thing alone, kind of an ‘insult to injury’ thing.

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  5. The reporter asking the initial question was obviously fishing for the Creationist response, hence the use of the word “believe”. Scientists would not use such a term, however Creationists, whether ID fucknuts or pure, bllind literal Creationists consider evolution a threat to their faith, hence belief is the lens through which this is processed.

    As for chiropracty, hocus-pocus or not, I swear by my chiropractor. Of course, she took science classes and even got two degrees to show for it.

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  6. By the way, did you guys notice Marc Garneau’s comment?

    On Tuesday, Liberal science critic Marc Garneau said that believing in evolution is not a job requirement for the science minister.

    “It is a personal matter. It is a matter of faith.… I don’t think it prevents someone from being a good minister,” said the former astronaut, who has been a vocal critic of the government for its cuts to the three granting councils that fund university-based research in Canada.

    I’m sorry, but I think it *does* matter if a minister in charge of the science portfolio doesn’t believe in one of the major tenets of modern biology. It matters a great deal, particularly in a time when the government is increasingly centralizing control for funding in Ottawa.

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  7. It depends, I suppose, on what kind of chiropracty we’re talking about – I grant it’s usefullness in the areas of neck and spinal problems, but I’ve seen some fairly out there claims including chiropracty as treatment for asthma and bedwetting…

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  8. That’s how you tell the complete quacks from those that actually know what they’re doing. I’ve read of claims from curing diabetes to helping earaches…

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  9. As for the Marc Garneau quote – did you really think he was going to piss off the percentage of the country that deludes themselves with creationism? This is the Liberals we’re talking about – the party who’s motto might as well be “The Liberal Party of Canada – We Please Everyone By Standing For Nothing”

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  10. As for the number of creationists – not sure, the National Post edititorial from today claims 23%, but I’m not overly inclined to buy that high a number for a couple of reasons:

    a. They don’t give the raw data behind the survey, notably the survey questions – one thing about working with the Provincial Department of Statistics, even in this short time, is that it’s fairly easy to massage numbers up or down by changing the phrasing of a question (i’m sure Flash has some sociological way of saying that better), and

    b. It’s the freaking National Post – you know that trope on how an infinite number of monkeys typing for an infinite amount of time will reproduce Shakespeare’s “Hamlet”? Your typical National Post editorial – one monkey, five minutes, top.

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  11. I just made the mistake of reading the National Pest comments on this story. The editorial percent of young earth creationists may be only 23% (which still scares the fuck out of me), but the commenting populace for that rag comes in at roughly 98% creationists.

    These people know how to read, and can punch enough random buttons to successfully Freep the Pest. Athiest Liberul Reprters set a TARP for Mr. Standup X-tian!

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  12. That’s why I never read the comment section there, there’s enough amateur idiots in this world that I feel no need to consult with the professionals….

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